Comments on: Hawaii has Split National Championship chance

By: Ethanator1088

Ethanator1088 — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:12:29 +0000

Well this is one thing I am glad we never had to worry about. Georgia dominated.

By: formerdawgfan

formerdawgfan — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:35:27 +0000

Well said, Sane. A perfect season is an extraordinarily elusive feat in this day, and the team that pulls that off should be No.1. Boise State deserved the national championship, because they won them all. No other team did. So what if they executed trick plays to perfection in doing so? That just bolsters their claim, because trick plays are extremely difficult to execute to perfection. Winning is all that matters. If we’d had the system in place in 1980 that we have now, Georgia would have probably been denied its only national championship, even though they won all their games that year.

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2008 Sugar Bowl, Georgia vs. Hawaii, prediction | SECFootball Blogger.com — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:18:29 +0000

[...] If Hawaii did win, it would throw a huge wrench into the BCS. I do not think it will happen but I did write about it. [...]

By: ftblfan

ftblfan — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:10:55 +0000

Sugar Bowl is the real National Champ Game
I think Georgia vs Hawaii is the real national championship game. Ohio and LSU are there because of politics. Georgia got cheated out of a title game and so did Hawaii. What other sport is there that you have the only perfect record in the country and you don’t even get a chance to be natl champ??? Ohio’s strength of schedule is not that much tougher than Hawaii and they lost. Georgia is definitely hotter than LSU right now. Anyone else agree?

By: wacked1

wacked1 — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:05:48 +0000

IF Hawaii wins, why not? A NC with 2 loses is 2 too many. BCS screams for a playoff system. Top 8 winner takes all. All questions answered once and for all ON THE FIELD. It was a year that the unranked kicked @$$ and made shambles of the 1 and 2′s. It was a year that ranked teams dodged mid-majors playing DII’s and losing? If you want to stop the BSU’s and Hawaii’s do not pay them to cancel out. Do not make excuses when they are willing to come to your “house”. Do not claim that your conference makes them “irrelavant”. Do not have them play you at home (UF) then refuse a return game because its “too far to travel”. Put up or shut up! Stop whinning and crying because its downright pathetic.

By: Ethanator1088

Ethanator1088 — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 00:14:10 +0000

Sane. I agree with part of your statement. I hope you understand that.

I hope you also understand that I am not the person you need to be fighting with. You are fighting with the Establishment. The Establishment says that the big conferences are better because they regularly blow out the smaller teams. It does not always happen but it usually does.

I did not mean to slight you by my –”if you were a big football fan, you would understand” statement. I meant that most college football fans understand that Boise State received no respect from the voters for these 2 reasons.

1. Strength of schedule
2. They won on trick plays. not only trick plays but they were a big part of the win.

The only way you can jump over teams in the polls is by making a statement. When you win, it is not always a huge statement. Hawaii needs to blow out Georgia to make a statement. That is not my opinion. That is a fact. I do not vote, but that is the mentality of the voters.

Thanks for visitng the blog, and come back any time. I enjoyed your comment and hope you did not take offense at what I said. I meant nothing by it.

By: Sane

Sane — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:10:10 +0000

You talk like a child–”if you were a big football fan, you would understand”. A “trick play” is just a play that catches the opponent off guard because it’s unusual and because the opponent isn’t paying attention. Inferior performance leads to defeat. OU got beaten by the team that played better for four quarters that day. What does it matter if a team is stronger in theory if it doesn’t actually convert its potential into victory on the field?

The problem with your thinking is obvious. If “strength of schedule” could tell us which teams were better and worse, then it should have been impossible for Boise State to beat OU. Trick plays, no matter how underhanded, can never win a game on their own, and even if they could, that just means that defenses need to grow a few more brains and adjust. That’s why it’s called a game.

The truth is, especially this season, that on any given day any team, no matter how highly ranked, can lose to an opponent, no matter how low ranked. The difference in talent is not nearly as great, or nearly as significant, as sportswriters would like us to think. That’s why the psychological aspect of football gains such significance in a game. The ability to generate momentum when down and carry it through to victory is AT LEAST as important as the physical talent as divined by “experts”. We see this over and over in the rest of college sports as well as the NBA and NFL. The reason we don’t see it here is, quite frankly, matchups (regular season and bowl) that threaten the illusion that the so-called major conferences like the SEC and Big 10 always produce the best team are avoided like the plague. If Hawaii’s schedule is “weak”, it wasn’t because they didn’t try to play some of the bigger-name teams. The fact that UH was avoided like it was proves that the great conferences are scared of the little giant-killers waiting for their chance.

By: Ethanator1088

Ethanator1088 — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:52:34 +0000

Believe it or not Sane, you are one of the few people that think the way you do. You or in the minority, and you are defending something that needs a majority vote.

If you were a big football fan, you would understand the” part about trick plays”.

Hawaii has played a very bad schedule and they almost lost several times. That is why they are so lowly ranked.

I am on your side though. I believe that Hawaii has a chance. They just have to blow out Georgia.

They have to blow out Georgia because the ” blow Out” means something to the voters. If you blow some one out, you must be the dominate team.

If Hawaii blows out Georgia on the 1st, everyone will be talking about how good Hawaii is till the 7th. Hawaii could lock up enough votes. If they barely beat Georgia on trick plays, there is no way they could jump in the polls.

That is what happened to Boise State last year.

By: Sane

Sane — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:25:29 +0000

Uh, what was that about trick plays? So presumably your wins only count as long you play as dumb as your opponent? What that amounts to saying is that when the higher rankings don’t match up with the victors in actual games, the scoreboard must have got it wrong. In other words, if Hawaii loses, it loses; if it wins, it loses. Of course, if you’re Ohio State, the opposite is true. Allow me to say that if Hawaii beats Georgia, no matter what the margin, the debate won’t be beginning–it will be OVER. UH will be national champions by any rational standard, and the rest is just the arrogance of big conference powers that think they’re too highly-ranked for something as mundane as performance on the field to matter.

By: Andrew Perkins

Andrew Perkins — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:26:29 +0000

Remember, the BCS is all about the politicking, and June Jones has gotten on that train as of late. Once the Heisman ceremony is done and gone, what will Jones talk about beside Colt Brennan winning? Yes, Hawaii not getting respect from the BCS. If they blow out Georgia, he’ll probably lay it on real thick. And so, while I don’t believe Hawaii will even sniff the championship, I would not be surprised if the debate rages in the wake of a big Hawaii win.